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Post by JimRatliff on Nov 16, 2013 14:09:17 GMT -7
You can mention other skis that you own if you want, but what skis do you expect to use on a regular basis, what is the waist width, and in what conditions or locations do you use each? For me (I'm a senior citizen, 5'11 and around 165 lbs) Fischer Progressor 8+ 170cm -- 122-74-103 Head Peak 84 Flowride 177cm -- 129-85-113 SkiLogik Ullr's Chariot 178cm -- 145-101-131 For a day at Elk mountain in Pennsylvania (1000' vertical), the 74mm waist For a ski clinic with HHS, the 74 mm waist. For a weekend in Vermont, the 84 mm waist for all conditions without packing two skis. For an early season trip to Colorado (little chance of deep powder), the 74 mm waist with the 101 waist "just in case I get lucky" For a later season trip to Colorado (more and softer snow, more likelihood of fresh snow), the 85 mm waist with the 101 "just in case we get a big dump." I have to say that I personally really like the versatility of all of these skis and the conditions they cover better than anything I've owned in the past 10 years, For example, I've spent an entire day of skiing groomed slopes on either of the wider skis and they are just fine in those conditions. Not optimal, but fine. Same for the Progressor in light powder and trees. And, interestingly, I think they all have a 14-15m turn radius. A favorite picture from Blue Sky Basin at Vail. I loved the layering of the snow on the tree limb, that was a very good year.
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Post by gary on Nov 17, 2013 6:32:49 GMT -7
Hey Jim...we are very similar in our width choices: Me...5'71/2" 152 lbs 170 Elan Amphibio 12 with 74 underfoot. My eastern hard snow and couple of inch freshie's ski. Turn radius 14 loves to be on edge and carve. 168 Kastle FX 84 carves, fresh snow ankle high, sugar snow, bumps, crud all day everyday driver out west with eastern duty as well, good in pow up to boot high, turn radius 16, loves to carve and pivots well. 171 Head Rev 105..anything from 3" up especially if it's still snowing..east and west carves, bumps, trees, exceptional for my skiing style. Turn radius 14, carves and pivots equally well. Nice rocker tip for boot high and above.. but quiet shovel not a flapper when pushing it. I look for a ski that is more finesse than power driven, has tail support for finishing turns, enjoys moonlight rides in 6" of fresh and doesn't mind sharring me with mulitple partners!
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Post by superbman on Nov 18, 2013 8:49:25 GMT -7
Some of this is new but I suspect:
1. Ski Logik Occam's Razor 162cm 76mm underfoot 11.5m radius 2. Icelantic Shaman 161cm 110mm underfoot 12m Radius 3. Ski LOgik Howitzer 186cm 110mm underfoot 22m radius
Narrow-76mm: Super-firm early season and the occasional day I just feel like carving (I suspect roughly 15% of my ski time) Short/Fat: Shamans: Mid winter groomers, trees, crud, soft moguls, General patrolling (75% of the time) Long and Wide: Howitzers: Set up for slack country so any time I hike, Fresh snow for a few runs, Big Mountains (March trip to Crystal, April to Snowbird) 10% time ski.
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Post by ron on Nov 18, 2013 11:35:17 GMT -7
groomers; kastle MX83
Mixed and a OQS choice when exploring around the boat or heading to copper/A-b or WP and there's nothing new but still softer/chalky. Kastle FX 94
Soft stuff feel like skiing more open stuff and carving on hero snow; Head REV 105
Leftovers, lite pow day 6" and up; hunting for fresh: Nordica Unleashed Hell or DPS 112; One will be sold off, also mounted for AT
BIG DEEP day and CAT Skiing: Praxis Protest. ALso, days when there's a lot of leftover low angle fresh, also getting setup for AT.
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Post by ToddW on Nov 18, 2013 13:00:16 GMT -7
Welcome back, Ron.
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Post by ToddW on Nov 18, 2013 13:22:10 GMT -7
My ski tastes are on the damp, traditional camber and width end of the spectrum. My "fat" ski at 78mm is skinnier than many people's "narrow" skis And my two main skis are mid-60s underfoot. Some of us have to be outliers, and I guess that's my lot in skiing life. Daily and spring conditions
| KERS Supershape 170cm
| Ice or empty slopes
| i.SL RD 165cm
| Deep snow or variety
| i.M 78
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The empty slopes option for the slalom skis is because their grip is such that they probably would still keep gripping if an out of control knuckle dragger slammed into me, which is the one case where I would prefer a ski to lose its grip and slide. For those who've skied with Kam, these were his originally and have a few special tweaks beyond the COTS i.SL RD.
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Post by HighAngles on Nov 18, 2013 14:18:14 GMT -7
OK, I'll play. Before I get into what I've got and why I use it, let me say that I'm a firm believer in the 3 ski quiver (hard pack, all mountain, deep day). From there you might want a rock ski for each position, so I could be happy with 6 skis (really, I mean it, why are you laughing? ). That said, my goal is to get down to 9 skis (with 3 skis in each of the 3 positions), but I own too many skis so I had to come up with a way to justify my abundant good fortune. I'm presently using a baker's dozen of skis in my active quiver, but I do have some pegged to be unloaded (red text in this screen clip). Skis in brown are my designated early season rock skis. Probably the most interesting skis in my quiver are the Scotts. You don't see a lot of these out on the slopes (although the recent introduction of The Ski has heightened some brand awareness). The Neo is the little brother to the Crusade, but has metal layers added. What I like about these skis is their sidecut design. They have deeper sidecuts without being hooky in crud and chop. They're not hooky because their tip and tail width does not continue to increase as the tip/tail rises. You feel ALL of the sidecut engage at fairly low edge angles. You don't end up with "surprises" as the tipping angle continues to increase because there isn't any more sidecut left to further engage. I really like how this design element skis and it's very uncommon to find it on narrower, more carving oriented skis. This tip/tail shape is commonly found on 5 point wide ski designs (although more to the extreme as the tips and tails actually become narrower as they rise - see the DPS Wailer 112RP and other similar skis). Unfortunately the Neo is discontinued for 2014 with no similar replacement (although it is shown in their rental models). Scott also changed the Crusade last season and significantly lightened the core which softened the flex a bit. The 2010 Crusade is a great crud buster, but the 2013 version is more versatile.
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Post by danboisvert on Nov 18, 2013 18:31:06 GMT -7
The empty slopes option for the slalom skis is because their grip is such that they probably would still keep gripping if an out of control knuckle dragger slammed into me, which is the one case where I would prefer a ski to lose its grip and slide. For those who've skied with Kam, these were his originally and have a few special tweaks beyond the COTS i.SL RD. Don't worry, Todd. I've crash-tested my pair at speed, and the binding released just as I was thinking "it'd be really nice if this ski came off right about now..". They do grip quite well, even when sliding on your side after cartwheeling off your head. I choose my skis for the day as much by turn radius as width, based on how fast I plan on going. Going fast on a 12m ski or slow on a 23m ski isn't fun for me. I'm 5'7" and down to around 150lbs now. What I plan on using this year: 1) Head Supershape Magnum (the liquidmetal ones), 170cm: rock skis, general groomer use for slow-ish days, working on drills and stuff 2) Head i.SL RD (athlete FIS version), 165cm: ice skates, crowded days 3) Head Monster iM78, 177cm: all-around use for medium-speed days, softer snow, normal eastern storm days 4) Head Rock'n'Roll, 180cm: this is my new lots-of-snow/travel ski. I hope I get the chance to use it! 5) Head i.GS RD, women's (consumer FIS version) >23m, 178cm: fast days, uncrowded days 6) Head i.GS RD, men's (athlete FIS version) >27m, 191cm: I've been afraid of these, but am hoping to get on them midweek at some point this season.
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Post by Gandalf on Nov 19, 2013 22:39:25 GMT -7
I split the rest of this thread into it's own topic. It had wandered away into a discussion that I thought was interesting, but quite a ways from the OP. Continue with the original topic, skis you plan to use this year.
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Post by livingproof on Nov 20, 2013 7:38:36 GMT -7
My present quiver is: Head Supershape (original) - 170 and now 5 years old The shapes are my early season eastern hard snow carvers, used mostly on days when I want to work on technique.
Hart Pulse 170, 77mm waist The Pulse get used on most days when I'm just out to ski
There another thread on-going regarding the western snow missing ski.
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