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Post by meput on Jan 4, 2014 14:47:24 GMT -7
...You know, you have to be of a certain age to even remember Broadway Joe's exploits... Isn't it special to be at that certain age!
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Post by JimRatliff on Jan 4, 2014 16:21:08 GMT -7
...You know, you have to be of a certain age to even remember Broadway Joe's exploits... Isn't it special to be at that certain age! Hmmm. Sometimes -- not always. Are there other options??
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Post by geoffda on Jan 4, 2014 16:58:45 GMT -7
Geoffda: Wow, what a tremendous write-up. I am, quite literally, speechless; unable to find words to express how much I enjoyed reading it (except for these words, obviously). Thank you. Thanks Jim, glad you enjoyed it. I'm now slapping myself because I forgot to mention the number one reason for counteracting (I'm going to edit my post) which is to counteract the rotation of the femur that is caused by foot tipping. On really, really hard snow if you are tipping aggressively you will break the ski loose with the rotation you've created if you don't counteract. We already get way too much rotation even when we aren't trying to rotate, so the best way to improve our skiing is to learn how to minimize rotation and control what we can't avoid. I consider "rotary" to be much more of a nuisance than a skill--unless we are talking about counteracting of course. When all of the movements are there at a high level and you need to lay down a Ligety skivot, believe me, it isn't hard. Yet another thing about skiing that is counterintuitive. The best way to learn to pivot is to learn how NOT to pivot.
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Post by geoffda on Jan 4, 2014 17:07:02 GMT -7
I suggest we invite Geoff to be the first Ice Coast Skier Society scholar in residence alternating weeks between Waterville Valley and Killington. Team him up with Glenn Scannell and the skiing world will never be the same again. Heh, is that a paid position?
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Post by JimRatliff on Jan 4, 2014 19:46:48 GMT -7
I suggest we invite Geoff to be the first Ice Coast Skier Society scholar in residence alternating weeks between Waterville Valley and Killington. Team him up with Glenn Scannell and the skiing world will never be the same again. Heh, is that a paid position? e:P
Hmmm. I guess it could be. It could be like a Univerity Building, you send us enough money and we will name the building (or, in this case, the Scholar in Residence Seat) after you. The GeoffDa Ice Coast SS Resident Scholar
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Post by JimRatliff on Jan 5, 2014 3:14:44 GMT -7
...Jim R., it's okay to wear your special skiing panty hose while posing for the mirror if that makes the experience feel more authentic. Bad mental image: "Fischer Girl" and "Broadway Joe/Jim" posing in the mirror on the slant board BTW, we have video.!!!! But it's not coming out of the archives.
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Post by joshmatta on Jan 30, 2014 18:53:05 GMT -7
it works if its happening in the right spot. the problem i see with alot of people focusing on CB is that there hips are still moving and despite their shoulders not moving. all the seperation is happening along the spine instead of at the hip femur joint. this leads to lack of true CB and also their CA is coming from the spinal column as well. This quite often leads to perpertually aft skiing, it would be the equivalent of a car trying to turn by the actually body of the car moving VS the tires turning it. IMO (this next part is stolen from a recent post on epic ski of mine) tipping start at the feet and continue up the legs till it stops cold at the hip joint.
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Post by livingproof on Feb 1, 2014 9:12:51 GMT -7
A major issue in any discussion of CB is that we do not speak from the same dictionary. Many who post here accept the PMTS definitions of CB, and, it's twin Counter Acting. For those who have read PMTS, Harald has always advocated and taught what Josh is commenting on regarding having the separation occur at the hip femur. It is not just bending sideways from the waist.
I was thinking of this yesterday, after reading the above, and, actively worked the hip sockets, in efforts to increase CA and CB. It works very well. Josh, thanks for the reminder.
I've often thought of a good ski turn is like a choreographed dance movement. Ya have to put a lot of pieces together to establish the entire performance. And that's about as much as I'm going to say on this matter. No interest in rehashing the extended technique dissensions in other forums.
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