First, let me say that I do visit the forum, almost daily, but, as I am not automatically logged-in, I do not show up as "on-line".
This a hard topic to open and discuss, but, is it time to consider letting the forum just slide away? There have been so few new discussions this season, and, almost no new gear reviews. It has been a downhill slide in the past two seasons, I think it can be traced back to 1 disastrous thread. It is now history, but, it is shame that all can't work to be friends even if we occasionally disagree about stuff. I don't do much worthy of starting a thread to discuss, I'm sure many of you feel the same way. I do feel connected with the members who post here, and, I really enjoyed the few days we spent skiing together. Just wish there could have been more of them.
I know most have joined Pugski, we can still keep in touch there. I know meput and Todd have posted there. Not funny, but there is a thread active there where the same person who blew up this forum has stirred up the mud regarding a PMTS drill. Damn, I hate the pro and con rhetoric with word choices designed to escalate the differences. I remember a recent "duhh" incident here, once on the net, it just can not be retracted.
So, what do you think about the forum's future.
And, always, thanks to Jim Ratliff, for his technical competence in making the forum possible, and, for his intelligent and open posting style.
Too bad Pugski ain't a viable alternative, but it's brimming over with hostility, and some of the private communications from well-ensconsed members present an opportunity to learn new slurs and putdowns. The Neutral Zone was a really nice idea, but perhaps it was centuries ahead of its time. inpacemrequiescat
The difficulty in maintaining a Neutral Zone was probably related to this classic ski instructor joke: If there are 5 ski instructors seated at a table, there are at least 6 different opinions around the table ... and all of them are right.
Hey gang....popped in to say hello and share some thoughts.
I just returned from skiing with Svend and family in Banff...great trip with wonderful friends. Svend and I were talking about this very subject. He said he felt when he joined he learned so much about skiing, ski tuning, maintenance, skis and boots the first few years he was here. I agreed, sharing thoughts with so many was helpful and just plain fun. There was such a broad selection of personalities, experiences and information. Many new and lifelong friends were made here...some of us (Mike, Ron, Greg, Perry, Svend) are still skiing together and still talking everything skiing.
It just feels to me (and other members I have spoken to) like the site got bias or limited in many areas causing enthusiasm to wain. Maybe it is time for putting a once great thing to sleep...a truly amazing run while it lasted. HOWEVER.....
Is there a way to revive it's once past glory....hmmmm....don't know. What if was less defined into required topic sections...just a message board where anything could be discussed ....maybe just a bit more simple...one page...read and/or respond?
Maybe if I may be so bold...moderators that were more liberal in there moderating about ski methods...always keeping an open mind to what works for the many who sometimes felt ganged up on here.
Respectful, open mildness, informative, funny, the things that made coming here years ago a break from the non-ski world.
As always, wishing all members great ski adventures no matter how you ski...may the "little kid" joy of skiing always inspire you.
The Neutral Zone was a really nice idea, but perhaps it was centuries ahead of its time. inpacemrequiescat
OK, Todd, you win! Google can not translate aueatqueuale, can you help me out?
A personal favorite song is California, by Joni Mitchell, I always liked the line "it was just a dream some of us had", hence:
The Neutral Zone was just a dream some of us had. I hope Pugski can avoid a similar fate.
To Gary's thought of resurrecting the forum in a 1 page format, I think the critical mass of required posters is just too small. Forums need new blood, for 2 years people have just faded away. Yes, it would be nice to go back to when I first joined, now 6 years ago, but, the new has now become the old. Of note, there is a similar shut-down thread on the PMTS forum, people come out of the woodwork to beg it to continue, but, the same few keep posting pretty much the same old stuff.
And, it was a good run, I'd still like to ski again with those I met here. Gary and I will try to link up next week in Holimont, Heluva may be there on Good Friday, I will be there with my daughters family. Not ready to say goodbye yet, but, it seems inevitable to just fade away.
With a few tweaks, Google should get it. In classical times, there were no spaces between Latin words and the letter j and i were the same (one used for inscriptions in hard materials like stone and the other for writing) as were u and v.
Google search or translate should recognize "ave atque vale" which means hail! and also farewell. Think "ave maria" hail Mary and then valedictorian (farewell speaker) for farewell. Atque is a high falutin version of 'and' that's used when it sounds good (before words that don't start with consonants) and with the sense of "and also", "and yet", "and still", etc.
High school Latin still haunts my brain over 3 decades later :-O
I know most have joined Pugski, we can still keep in touch there. I know meput and Todd have posted there. Not funny, but there is a thread active there where the same person who blew up this forum has stirred up the mud regarding a PMTS drill. Damn, I hate the pro and con rhetoric with word choices designed to escalate the differences.
Too bad Pugski ain't a viable alternative, but it's brimming over with hostility, and some of the private communications from well-ensconsed members present an opportunity to learn new slurs and putdowns.
The "open forum" concept being used at PugSki seems to me to be merely a thinly-veiled avenue for attacking PMTS if it is brought up. I've noticed it is allowed to be discussed as long as no one posts anything positive. If something positive is posted, someone from the boys club jumps in to discredit whatever was posted. The thread mentioned above was started based on a behind the scenes discussion that took place among a small group of contributors over there... for no other reason than to attack the drill, demo and skier. My contributions will be limited there because I have no interest in convincing anyone of anything. If they think they are right, who am I to tell them any differently. The proof is in the skiing. It's easy to see who is full of it and who isn't, which is probably why you don't see much skiing from major contributors. I find most of the posturing being done over there pretty laughable as a result. Coincidentally, I didn't see any of their names on the invitation list for the national demo team tryouts this year either...
Started to jump in to the thread over on Pugski, then thought better of it. There is a fair amount of negativity over there, especially in the Ski School forums. When the moderators are putting "like stamps" on posts that express skiing bias, not good.
Have missed this site being active. I understand it is hard to get people to start threads. Starting threads is what keeps a forum active.
May also reflect it has been a lousy ski season for those of us out east. Our minds are looking to go elsewhere. A lot of political negativity out there as well. Where is Pollyanna when you need her?
livingproof: Philly is an ice rink this morning, freezing rain over very cold streets. Weather is putting a dent into my ski season.
Jan 5, 2014 9:39:28 GMT -7
Deleted: LP - we had a three-day ice storm here just before Christmas, so I know well what you're dealing with. Not fun. Hope there's no damage in Philly. Take care.
Jan 5, 2014 20:23:02 GMT -7
livingproof: Philly weather warm fog last night, 8 inches of new snow = history! 8 degrees F tomorrow morning. Should be some great local boilerplate!
Jan 6, 2014 7:42:34 GMT -7
meput: - 22° F the other morning. +54° today. Forcast 0° tonight. Temperature rollercoaster at my home. The 'loaf got RAIN with the warm up. Looking forward to skiing on shaved ice
Jan 6, 2014 16:28:43 GMT -7
Deleted: Same story here...25 cm snow last night, some more freezing rain, and now there's 80 km/hr winds and -25 C temps. Wind chill is pushing -40 C. Supposed to continue all day tomorrow too. Whacky weather.
Jan 6, 2014 20:52:30 GMT -7
ToddW: -20° F on the drive up to VT on Friday. Freezing rain and heavy fog Sunday night made for an 8 hour return trip. Record low at home this morning. 40s and rain by Friday. What's up with the weather?
Jan 7, 2014 18:04:52 GMT -7
Deleted: Polar vortex is back. -26 C this morning. Will need a block heater in the car if this keeps up. Poor thing barely cranked this morning.
Jan 22, 2014 7:30:05 GMT -7
JimRatliff: Polar Vortex??? Is that the new Head all-mountain carving ski I've been hearing so much about?
Jan 22, 2014 9:04:03 GMT -7
JimRatliff: That's pretty chilly. 7F (-13C) in Central Park. Glad you didn't send the real cold air down.
Jan 22, 2014 9:04:58 GMT -7
JimRatliff: OK, but I still think "Polar Vortex" and "Polar Express" could be the start of a great family of ski names.
Jan 22, 2014 10:45:22 GMT -7
Deleted: I like it! Blizzard should take those on. Fits with their name. Easier to say than "Viva Ultrasonic Full Suspension IQ", or some such ridiculousness. Who can remember all that?
Jan 22, 2014 20:29:13 GMT -7
livingproof: Another round of Philly area snow....we're ground zero this season. Please start sending any future storms north.
Mar 2, 2014 8:15:55 GMT -7
Deleted: Neverending winter here in Ontario. More snow last night. Cold temps coming this week. Word on the street is that some local ski hills may be open until May. Remarkable and unprecedented.
Mar 22, 2014 9:03:22 GMT -7
superbman: we were supposed to make it to next weekend, but they put out that we're closing tomorrow. Bummer.
Mar 28, 2014 9:06:50 GMT -7
JimRatliff: I think most local places here are closing as well. Yesterday was last at Elk.
Mar 30, 2014 4:17:15 GMT -7
livingproof: My Blue Mtn home is planning to open next weekend (closed midweek). Spring temps are finally here, not sure if I'll make a final trip.
Mar 30, 2014 6:00:04 GMT -7
ToddW: Surefire way to scare away family skiers, from the Killington conditions page: "Expect huge bumps on Superstar for the Killington Triathlon."
May 2, 2014 13:22:58 GMT -7
JimRatliff: I just wanted to wish all a Happy Holidays. Amazing how quickly Christmas follows Thanksgiving.
Dec 13, 2014 14:53:23 GMT -7
superbman: I was looking at the reviews on real skiers for the Kastle FX 85 and FX 85HP…both interested me greatly, how similar are these to the FX 84 (if you have skied both..or is the 85 the 84??)
Sept 13, 2015 14:52:00 GMT -7