Post by livingproof on Jan 15, 2015 17:52:07 GMT -7
Mar 20, 2014 at 1:28pm
Post by HeluvaSkier on Mar 20, 2014 at 1:28pm
LP wrote: Call me insane, but, yesterday, I bought a used 165 Fischer WorldCup Sl...yup, the full blown, all-out 63mm waisted short-turn speed machine.
HelluvaSkier wrote: I don't mean to rain on your parade, but are you sure this is a good idea?
Read more: peakskierzone.proboards.com/thread/105/fischer-wc-sl?page=2#ixzz3OwExWqup
I've lived with some apprehension for 10 months with HelluvaSkiers warnings on skiing the Fischer WC Sl that was purchased at the end of last season. Today, I skied with them for the first time on my home mountain in typical eastern conditions, that is hard, icy snow underneath, minor death cookies, loose granular scrapped off snow on top. The first few runs were very cautious, all on green trails. Immediately, the edge grip produced by simple tipping movements is far stronger than anything I've experienced. Still, I am clearly skidding turns, not bending the skis, much more GS turns than Sl. Yet, they are not overly demanding and after several runs, the apprehension melts away. They are amazingly stable for a 165cm ski, if they get a little squirrelly, just put them on a little edge. (note to self, they are designed to be on edge, keep putting your body into tipping angles) And did I mention the edge grip? Just think about changing edges and it happens very quickly.
As the day went on, I just concentrated on free foot pull back and clean balance transfers, resulted in much more carving. Making Sl turns is a fair amount of work, I can understand why Helluva only skis Sl's for a few hours. He skis at a level which I will never obtain, we are talking apples vs oranges when comparing our abilities and turnshapes, but, by days end, I was doing a lot of smiling, thinking these will make a great everyday ski in hard conditions. I'm still making mostly skidded GS turns, but, it's improving. One factor may be that i weigh about 50 more lbs than Helluva.
Just a quick summary. Whatever my fears about a WC Sl ski were, they were gone by days end, replaced by growing confidence that they will make me a better skier, yes, one who mixes in both GS and shorter turns, but, still better. My goal is to cleanly carve the faces of our 2 expert runs, something I've not done on any ski. The previous day, I skied my Hart Pulse skis and seemed to fight them all day, I felt much more in control today. Still early in the season, today was day 4. Will return to skiing following 4 day MLK weekend, Fischer's will be underfoot. More thoughts to come with more time on skis.
Fischers will be with me at Hollimont, perhaps HelluvaVideo and analysis may show up.
Post by HeluvaSkier on Mar 20, 2014 at 1:28pm
LP wrote: Call me insane, but, yesterday, I bought a used 165 Fischer WorldCup Sl...yup, the full blown, all-out 63mm waisted short-turn speed machine.
HelluvaSkier wrote: I don't mean to rain on your parade, but are you sure this is a good idea?
Read more: peakskierzone.proboards.com/thread/105/fischer-wc-sl?page=2#ixzz3OwExWqup
I've lived with some apprehension for 10 months with HelluvaSkiers warnings on skiing the Fischer WC Sl that was purchased at the end of last season. Today, I skied with them for the first time on my home mountain in typical eastern conditions, that is hard, icy snow underneath, minor death cookies, loose granular scrapped off snow on top. The first few runs were very cautious, all on green trails. Immediately, the edge grip produced by simple tipping movements is far stronger than anything I've experienced. Still, I am clearly skidding turns, not bending the skis, much more GS turns than Sl. Yet, they are not overly demanding and after several runs, the apprehension melts away. They are amazingly stable for a 165cm ski, if they get a little squirrelly, just put them on a little edge. (note to self, they are designed to be on edge, keep putting your body into tipping angles) And did I mention the edge grip? Just think about changing edges and it happens very quickly.
As the day went on, I just concentrated on free foot pull back and clean balance transfers, resulted in much more carving. Making Sl turns is a fair amount of work, I can understand why Helluva only skis Sl's for a few hours. He skis at a level which I will never obtain, we are talking apples vs oranges when comparing our abilities and turnshapes, but, by days end, I was doing a lot of smiling, thinking these will make a great everyday ski in hard conditions. I'm still making mostly skidded GS turns, but, it's improving. One factor may be that i weigh about 50 more lbs than Helluva.
Just a quick summary. Whatever my fears about a WC Sl ski were, they were gone by days end, replaced by growing confidence that they will make me a better skier, yes, one who mixes in both GS and shorter turns, but, still better. My goal is to cleanly carve the faces of our 2 expert runs, something I've not done on any ski. The previous day, I skied my Hart Pulse skis and seemed to fight them all day, I felt much more in control today. Still early in the season, today was day 4. Will return to skiing following 4 day MLK weekend, Fischer's will be underfoot. More thoughts to come with more time on skis.
Fischers will be with me at Hollimont, perhaps HelluvaVideo and analysis may show up.