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Post by ToddW on Mar 10, 2014 15:32:37 GMT -7
I have a co-worker who is returning to skiing. His main interest is skiing hard snow at larger than slalom turn size. Due to his past skiing life long ago, he wants to buy Rossignol. He's eyeing the Pursuit 16. Does anyone have experience or hearsay to share about this ski?
My co-worker is not a PMTS skier and has never even heard of that name, so I'm looking for a more conventional viewpoint of this ski.
Thanks,
Todd
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Post by HeluvaSkier on Mar 11, 2014 7:27:39 GMT -7
Hi Todd, I've not skied this before, but heard from a [PMTS] boot fitter that I ski with periodically that it is a good ski. He said it was super soft and didn't have the performance envelope that I would like in a ski, but did say it was an easy ski to make work. Honestly, I like the look and shape of them... I'd give them a go. He told me they had some characteristics of the old CX80, but without the horsepower under the hood that the CX80 had.
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Post by HighAngles on Mar 11, 2014 13:00:54 GMT -7
I'm not sure which Rossi Pursuit I saw Bob Peters on last season at JH, but he definitely likes them and said that since his departure from being the Head rep (used to ski the Titan as his DD) he puts more days in on the Pursuits than anything else (of course this was all well before he started skiing the Soul 7 this season).
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Post by ToddW on Mar 11, 2014 15:20:14 GMT -7
Thanks for the comments! Info has been passed on.
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Post by livingproof on Mar 12, 2014 8:12:20 GMT -7
Just sayin', but, it always brings a smile and a slight shake of the head when I read about someone returning to skiing who wants the ski brand used years ago. At one time Rossi ruled in the narrow ski width world, then lost their way with wider skis, now is reclaiming market share with some pretty good reviews across the line. K2 is another brand people seem to love from yester-year, only, now they are not American made. And, certainly, the Volkl crowd has the highest brand loyalty, plus willing to tell all how great they ski (IMHO).
I've lost brand loyalty in skis, bindings and boots. How about you?
Rossi Pursuit with a 74 waist, some early tip rise and claims that it's designed for hard snow, could work well for an eastern skier.
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Post by HeluvaSkier on Mar 12, 2014 11:40:22 GMT -7
At one time Rossi ruled in the narrow ski width world, then lost their way with wider skis, now is reclaiming market share with some pretty good reviews across the line. Actually, Rossi is one of the companies that continued to build quite good front-side skis after wider skis became the go-to for consumers. Going all the way back to the early 2000's they had the T-power skis that were softer versions of their race skis, followed by the "oversize" skis that were again, a softer, more shapely version of their race boards. Those were followed by the CX80 (the 180 length has become a modern classic among expert skiers), and then the Strato 80 and 70. Now they have widened the range to include the 9GS and 9SL as well as the Pursuit series. Next season you will see the "hero" skis emphasize this category even more. Despite consumer perception, Rossignol is one of the companies that has continued to stay true to their racing roots by producing detuned versions of their race skis year after year. When I think about front-side skis the companies that come to mind for producing consistently strong line-ups for the past 15+ years are Fischer, Head, and Rossignol.
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Post by HighAngles on Mar 12, 2014 13:47:24 GMT -7
I've lost brand loyalty in skis, bindings and boots. How about you? I'm always open to new "ideas" (and skis), but if anything, my brand loyalty has only grown stronger over the past few years. I'm fortunate to have the opportunity to demo a good amount of skis each season. Those test runs have only solidified the fact that I like very particular traits in my skis and there's only a handful of manufacturers that build skis that suit me best.
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Post by ToddW on Mar 12, 2014 15:45:49 GMT -7
I've lost brand loyalty in skis, bindings and boots. How about you? I'm developing brand loyalty in boots. For the first time I have bought basically the same boot twice (raptor 130 RD followed by its 150 flex successor the raptor B2). The previous two boots were each different brands. I have a strong preference for a certain feel and responsiveness in skis. Any manufacturer that can produce a durable ski like that at the right price can get my business. I am pretty particular about bindings and would do serious homework before trying a different piece of safety gear. The many flimsy system bindings out there are simply not an option for me. I can't choose the in-bounds avalanche control efforts etc. taken by others for my safety, but I can choose what happens when unexpected torques try to wrest my skis from my body ... which is at least as big a safety risk.
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Post by HeluvaSkier on Mar 12, 2014 22:11:14 GMT -7
I'm developing brand loyalty in boots. For the first time I have bought basically the same boot twice (raptor 130 RD followed by its 150 flex successor the raptor B2). The previous two boots were each different brands. I have a strong preference for a certain feel and responsiveness in skis. Any manufacturer that can produce a durable ski like that at the right price can get my business. I am pretty particular about bindings and would do serious homework before trying a different piece of safety gear. The many flimsy system bindings out there are simply not an option for me. I can't choose the in-bounds avalanche control efforts etc. taken by others for my safety, but I can choose what happens when unexpected torques try to wrest my skis from my body ... which is at least as big a safety risk. You ski 150 flex boots... you hate flimsy bindings... and you like responsive skis... we should ski together sometime.
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Post by livingproof on Mar 13, 2014 8:57:51 GMT -7
I've lost brand loyalty in skis, bindings and boots. How about you? I am pretty particular about bindings and would do serious homework before trying a different piece of safety gear. The many flimsy system bindings out there are simply not an option for me. I can't choose the in-bounds avalanche control efforts etc. taken by others for my safety, but I can choose what happens when unexpected torques try to wrest my skis from my body ... which is at least as big a safety risk. Todd, Now, you've got me curious as to what bindings you choose, and, what you consider flimsy system bindings...perhaps too much plastic? In the past few years, I've used Vist, Head/Tyrolia freeflex, Marker Griffon, Look px12's, and just recently Solly's. Other than the Vist, which are pretty heavy duty construction, plastic is common. I did have an issue with the Griffon adjustable bindings not being able to hold forward tension, not sure I'd use their adjustable system as my daily driver..too many working plastic parts. As a very general statement, many state there is little or no difference in modern bindings for the pedestrian skier. Having said that, I've no argument at all with anyone who chooses a more heavy duty binding. High din race bindings are excluded from the above generalizations.
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