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Post by HighAngles on Feb 11, 2014 11:48:49 GMT -7
Thanks for the pics. I recommend going with the World Cup SE and removing some OMfit compound if necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 12:09:22 GMT -7
Brilliant! Thanks H-A. Appreciate the help. I'll keep you posted as to what I end up with.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 12:42:00 GMT -7
After a very busy Feb. and March, I finally have some time to revisit this question and am now ready to pull the trigger on a new liner. I skied my Infernos with the packed out stock liner for 7 days at Banff, and vowed "Never again!" To make it tolerable, I had to pad the tongue with some soft thick felt just to give me some relief from the hard liner tongue and take up some volume in the cuff. Comfortable, and nice and snug again. An easy fix, but temporary, as there is still a wee bit of wiggle room in the forefoot that I want to take up. I have decided to go with an Intuition liner, and have chosen the FX Race model ( intuitionliners.com/the-liners/race/ ) as the most likely candidate that would suit my needs....which are.... - tongue style with reinforced upper cuff area - low volume forefoot and higher volume cuff, which is exactly what I need - thin sole for footbed and responsiveness/snow feel - medium-stiff foam which should stiffen the boot slightly (perfect), but not be rock-hard like the Pro Tongue. So it should be reasonably comfortable and give good performance (FYI, the liner foam stiffness chart is here: Intuition stiffness/volume chart ) Question for you all is, has anyone ever tried this model? All past comments re. Intuition have been about Power Wrap or Pro Tongue. If someone has experience with the FX Race, good or bad, I'd like to hear about it. Other comments / suggestions most welcome too. Thanks in advance!
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Post by HighAngles on Apr 1, 2014 19:05:14 GMT -7
If you go with the FX Race I highly suggest you give serious consideration to upsizing the liner at least one shell size. Please trust me on this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 19:13:15 GMT -7
Yes, that's what the guy from Intuition also said. Good advice. I have been back and forth with them by email over the past week getting help in selecting a proper model. For the FX Race, he said to round up from my usual 27.5 to a 28.
HA -- I take it you have some experience with this liner? Any other comments or insight to share?
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Post by HighAngles on Apr 2, 2014 9:18:06 GMT -7
I have only "fondled" the FX Race - never skied it. However, from fondling I could tell that it is quite similar in thickness and construction to the Plug which I have skied extensively (just doesn't have a tongue). The Plug is a bit stiffer though (and it seems that Intuition themselves agree on that point). As long as you have a fairly tight shell fit then you should be good with the FX Race.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 16:10:45 GMT -7
Yes, the shell fit in my Infernos is very snug in the forefoot, instep and ankle. Minimal additional space there. It's only in the cuff area where I need some space to be taken up with a thicker liner. Adding a 1/8" felt shim to the inside of the tongue worked well for a tighter fit overall in the cuff, but there is still room for more. As an aside, this shim really improved heel hold in the boot.
The guy from Intuition did hint that the Plug and other high density foam models (Pro Tongue, etc.) are quite stiff and have rather hard foam. Since I am wanting neither of these characteristics, it pretty much ruled out those models. Their stiffness/volume chart is very helpful in this regard.
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