I am looking for a jacket that is functional i.e., inner pockets at chest for phone/p2talk/mp3 etc. and warm down to maybe high single digits. Water resistant with detachable or no hood.
Usually not dealing with the weather some of you Nor Easters do with bone chilling/wet/icy etc. weather. For the most part, the coldest part of my skiing will be done in teen'ish temps. Much colder than that, i.e., single or - digits usually provokes another level of preparedness by at least by this skier.
Ideally something that sans a mid layer underneath would suffice for 30'ish temps yet with a layer of UA cold gear or similar would work down to low teens.
Try anything by Outdoor Research and if you find it on STP you'll probably hit your price point. I have found the OR stuff to be a great bang for the buck and with all of the skiing features you'll want.
Post by livingproof on Dec 21, 2013 12:09:32 GMT -7
Are you looking for an insulated jacket only, or, a shell where the insulation is your base layers? Insulated ski jackets can be a one-trick pony and get little wear outside of skiing. As you don't ski in very cold weather, shells and soft shells provide a lot more versatility. I've got an OR softshell and, like High Angles, am proponent of that brand. Gore Tex type watherproofing and a hood in a shell give you a lot of wear outside of ski season, but, then we get a lot more rain in the off season.
Thx HA, I will check out the OR stuff. "STP"= Sierra Trading Post?
LP...I am thinking maybe soft shell or perhaps just shell.
For the most part I have been wearing a cold gear mock T neck, Descente mid layer and an old Izod fleece pullover. I have stayed pretty warm in high twenties/low thirties with that set up. On colder days I have gone to my regular ski jacket which I have unfortunately outgrown...or wait...I think it shrunk...
At any rate, if I get too much jacket, I am afraid I won't wear it that much even to ski.
Me personally, I like to layer. I adjust my base layer and mid layer for warmth i.e. thermal insulation. The outer layer I adjust for wind, water resistance and breathability, not so much for thermal insulation. My soft shells are softer fabrics (less crinkly), a little insulation (fuzzy inside) and breath better for warmer days or where I will sweat more, but they let in more wind and can wet out in a downpour or heavy wet snow (which makes me colder). My soft shells also don't have powder skirts (not an issue for me because I wear bib bottoms. My hard shell protects me from wind and rain keeps the elements out. But there is zero thermal insulation and it can get steamy if I overheat (which is when I open the pit vents). On a really cold, windy, wet day I have the option of wearing my hard shell over my soft shell or a down jacket/sweater (or just staying indoors and keeping up with my ski buds on Peak Skier Zone).
If I had to choose only 1 piece, I would get a hard shell. Soft shells are a compromise solution that isn't going to keep you warm and dry on the worst days. Of the soft shell fabrics, Gore-Tex Windstopper is probably the most windproof and waterproof of the lot (but not as good as true hard shell fabric). To make matters really confusing, Gore-Tex has a membrane hard shell material they market as "Soft Shell" along side Pro Shell. It's really just a softer, less crinkly hard shell, not true soft shell fabric.
livingproof: Philly is an ice rink this morning, freezing rain over very cold streets. Weather is putting a dent into my ski season.
Jan 5, 2014 9:39:28 GMT -7
svend: LP - we had a three-day ice storm here just before Christmas, so I know well what you're dealing with. Not fun. Hope there's no damage in Philly. Take care.
Jan 5, 2014 20:23:02 GMT -7
livingproof: Philly weather warm fog last night, 8 inches of new snow = history! 8 degrees F tomorrow morning. Should be some great local boilerplate!
Jan 6, 2014 7:42:34 GMT -7
meput: - 22° F the other morning. +54° today. Forcast 0° tonight. Temperature rollercoaster at my home. The 'loaf got RAIN with the warm up. Looking forward to skiing on shaved ice
Jan 6, 2014 16:28:43 GMT -7
svend: Same story here...25 cm snow last night, some more freezing rain, and now there's 80 km/hr winds and -25 C temps. Wind chill is pushing -40 C. Supposed to continue all day tomorrow too. Whacky weather.
Jan 6, 2014 20:52:30 GMT -7
ToddW: -20° F on the drive up to VT on Friday. Freezing rain and heavy fog Sunday night made for an 8 hour return trip. Record low at home this morning. 40s and rain by Friday. What's up with the weather?
Jan 7, 2014 18:04:52 GMT -7
svend: Polar vortex is back. -26 C this morning. Will need a block heater in the car if this keeps up. Poor thing barely cranked this morning.
Jan 22, 2014 7:30:05 GMT -7
JimRatliff: Polar Vortex??? Is that the new Head all-mountain carving ski I've been hearing so much about?
Jan 22, 2014 9:04:03 GMT -7
JimRatliff: That's pretty chilly. 7F (-13C) in Central Park. Glad you didn't send the real cold air down.
Jan 22, 2014 9:04:58 GMT -7
JimRatliff: OK, but I still think "Polar Vortex" and "Polar Express" could be the start of a great family of ski names.
Jan 22, 2014 10:45:22 GMT -7
svend: I like it! Blizzard should take those on. Fits with their name. Easier to say than "Viva Ultrasonic Full Suspension IQ", or some such ridiculousness. Who can remember all that?
Jan 22, 2014 20:29:13 GMT -7
livingproof: Another round of Philly area snow....we're ground zero this season. Please start sending any future storms north.
Mar 2, 2014 8:15:55 GMT -7
svend: Neverending winter here in Ontario. More snow last night. Cold temps coming this week. Word on the street is that some local ski hills may be open until May. Remarkable and unprecedented.
Mar 22, 2014 9:03:22 GMT -7
superbman: we were supposed to make it to next weekend, but they put out that we're closing tomorrow. Bummer.
Mar 28, 2014 9:06:50 GMT -7
JimRatliff: I think most local places here are closing as well. Yesterday was last at Elk.
Mar 30, 2014 4:17:15 GMT -7
livingproof: My Blue Mtn home is planning to open next weekend (closed midweek). Spring temps are finally here, not sure if I'll make a final trip.
Mar 30, 2014 6:00:04 GMT -7
ToddW: Surefire way to scare away family skiers, from the Killington conditions page: "Expect huge bumps on Superstar for the Killington Triathlon."
May 2, 2014 13:22:58 GMT -7
JimRatliff: I just wanted to wish all a Happy Holidays. Amazing how quickly Christmas follows Thanksgiving.
Dec 13, 2014 14:53:23 GMT -7
superbman: I was looking at the reviews on real skiers for the Kastle FX 85 and FX 85HP…both interested me greatly, how similar are these to the FX 84 (if you have skied both..or is the 85 the 84??)
Sept 13, 2015 14:52:00 GMT -7