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Post by livingproof on Nov 12, 2015 12:38:23 GMT -7
In case you have not caught up with the news, Philpug and Treckchick (Tricia) have started their own ski oriented web site Pugski.com. I've been a member of the beta-test team for several days, and, today, it went on line. I know, I know, another ski site to waste time. I suspect that the prime focus will continue to be gear centrist, but, there is an instruction forum. Phil tells me they are not banning PMTS discussions, we'll see how that goes as this site still feels the impact of a thread that went very wrong.
While P & T will continue to do limited Epic posting, they have married their future to making the site commercially successful. I wish them great success.
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Post by JimRatliff on Nov 15, 2015 20:04:39 GMT -7
The ski reviews of Dawgcatching and Philpug have been the two highlights of Epic in my opinion. Now both have their own web sites.
My perception of Epic as a Ski Instructor site was of considerably less interest and value to me.
I wish Phil and Trish good luck and success.
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Post by livingproof on Nov 16, 2015 6:26:08 GMT -7
Jim Dawgcatching's website is built around his ski and bike business, so, it is not the same as what Pugski is doing which is much more like Epic Ski.
I agree that Dawg's ski reviews are a great read, plus, he puts a lot of video up showing his performance on the actual skis. The man can ski! I appreciate his ability to fine tune distinctions between skis, a skill which eludes me personally. It seems that there are more and more skis getting very good reviews and I consider him a trusted reviewer. One aspect of his reviews that needs some extrapolating, for me at 190 lbs., is that Dawg is a lightweight.
I fully agree that the Epic Instruction forums are not beneficial to the pedestrian skiers looking to improve. Much more a private discussion between people with too much testosterone. HelluvaSkier has a very unique presence there and makes me smile with some great zingers. He walks the line pretty well as a disciple of Harald's physical movement teachings. Phil has an instructional forum on his site, I hope it does not morph into Epic-like discussions. For sure, I hope he does not let it become a war zone where PSIA vs PMTS rants play out.
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Post by lynn on Nov 17, 2015 13:44:48 GMT -7
I have found Epic to be increasing uninteresting. Wishing Phil/Trish success in this. Nice for there to be an alternative to the weird world of Epic. I am guessing there will be a large flocking of folks from Epic to Pugsite. Glad to hear it won't be anti any particular skitechnique.
Just want to say, anyone can discuss any ski technique they want here. They just can't personally disparage anyone.
Speaking of which, this may give Josh Matta a place to play in. Maybe he can manage to maintain a posting style which doesn't denigrate anyone.
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Post by JimRatliff on Nov 17, 2015 13:46:49 GMT -7
I agree with all you say. However, I will also say that the origins of the PMTS vs PSIA battles came from both side. I think there were zealots to spare on both sides of the battle.
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Post by HeluvaSkier on Nov 17, 2015 19:37:29 GMT -7
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Post by livingproof on Nov 18, 2015 6:48:11 GMT -7
^^^^ Ya gotta love Hellua's sense of humor!
It's hard to be passionate a ski site after a decade of watching. My connection to Epic and now Pugski is centered about the people I've come to know from 5 years of attending the yearly Gatherings. My sense is that Todd,Jim and Lynn feel much the same connection to PMTS. I still lurk at Harald's site and considered posting again....still on the fence as I've lost my passion for touting his beliefs, but, he will always be the only instructional source for my skiing. I'll go the my grave as a pedestrian skier and golfer.
I believe that how Pugski is moderated is a key to it's success. One positive aspect about Josh is his ability to create context and all forums need that. Heck, look at our little forums decline which is somewhat cause by lack of new and different threads. I think Josh would be welcomed, but, on a short leash.
Jim, while scanning the new Pugski members, I did notice a certain Mr. Mithrandir signed up. Hmmm, I wonder who that may be?
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Post by JimRatliff on Nov 18, 2015 10:16:10 GMT -7
Wrong guess. Not me. Maybe I need to get my name reserved. FWIW, I don't post on PMTS or Epic either (Lynn filters all of the information for me).
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Post by JimRatliff on Nov 18, 2015 10:17:53 GMT -7
Heluva: I was actually thinking of SCSA and some others that followed in his steps, not aimed at you at all.
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Post by ToddW on Nov 20, 2015 17:36:17 GMT -7
One of the epic banned trio took the Harb alignment tech course this fall and is head coach for one of the major intro to race programs in the US this season. In person, he's a great guy, a very seasoned and effective coach, but also very passionate about performance skiing ... hence the incidents on epic. I'm pretty sure all of us would enjoy skiing with him. He's blessed with great skiing feet btw. (He's also psia level 3 and a former ski school director.)
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