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Post by danboisvert on Aug 18, 2014 16:17:46 GMT -7
Liam--yeah, it's still the AT ski I have yet to purchase. I'm still obsessed with the Movement Shift (98mm) and Movement Trust (108mm), for presumably emotional reasons I don't comprehend. Once I figure out how heavy/wide I want to go, I'll decide between them. I looked at the Liberty Variants, but they've got metal and are heavy for their widths. In my size, the 97mm Variant is 250 grams per ski heavier than the Trust, and 11mm narrower. It's roughly the same size as the Shift, but 800 grams per ski heavier. I'd still like to demo the Variants though, because I think the partial-width titanal thing they're doing is cool and I'm curious what it feels like. I don't plan on doing any really long tours, so I'm thinking I might prefer the width of the Trust and accept a bit of extra weight for it. That ski got great reviews on TGR from people who seem to like the same kind of skis I do and, realistically, I want to skin for turns in deep snow. If I decide I want to start going longer and further out and do more proper touring, I can buy a lighter setup then...or at least that's my current thought process.
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Post by superbman on Aug 18, 2014 17:04:31 GMT -7
The Movement stuff all looks good, I mean a high end swiss ski that is free ski focused? Pretty cool. I remember considering some of their bigger skis when the Pariah and the Jam were all the rage on HH's forum. Does anyone in the US carry Movement skis? Where will you use these…AT at what mountains: Eastern Resort Slack Country and in bounds hiking? Actual North Conway BC? Or on western AT trips?
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Post by danboisvert on Aug 20, 2014 4:45:32 GMT -7
Liberty Mountain is bringing Movement in this year. Last year skimo.co had a couple models, and I've found euro distributors willing to ship to the US. I'm intending to use these in places like the Chic Chocs, Rockies, and Europe, mostly. I'm not anticipating they'll see much use locally, at least for now. Maybe that'll change as I rekindle my fondness for the skin track.
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Post by superbman on Aug 21, 2014 6:33:46 GMT -7
Liberty Mountain is bringing Movement in this year. Last year skimo.co had a couple models, and I've found euro distributors willing to ship to the US. I'm intending to use these in places like the Chic Chocs, Rockies, and Europe, mostly. I'm not anticipating they'll see much use locally, at least for now. Maybe that'll change as I rekindle my fondness for the skin track. Wow! Sounds like you have a good winter of ski travel planned! Chick Choks, Rockies and Europe-Nice! You're living right! Well, FWIW, considering you are talking about using them for genuine high alpine, open, steep and hopefully deep AT skiing (ok, Chick Choks are low-alpine, but still ski like the top of the Alps) in soft to very soft/ deep snow, or really funky crud….I'd want something wider (105-110) with some 'guts'-you know, like my life depended on those skis (because it just might). I might look at Something more like the Full Sized liberty Variant (kind of built for just this), Icelantic Nomad RKR, K2 Annex (over the softer, playful-Pettitor), Maybe the Nordica El Capo or even the Helldorado-or whatever the Movement ski is that matches those skis (as I am sure they make several corresponding models). I remember hiking at Jackson Hole about 7 years ago (several in-bounds Slack Country areas and one day at Teton Pass-all boot hikes, though)-I still had the old Head Monster im88's, everyone else, I mean every single local who was a regular slack/ backcountry addict Had skis like the K2 Pontoon (I must have seen a dozen of these, and they are still the preferred ski of the pro-guides at Silverton). I figure, those guys and gals all knew something I didn't. I wouldn't go that big, but for Big AT slogs in Big Terrain, well, something pretty gutsy and 'big' has some value.
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Post by danboisvert on Aug 21, 2014 16:09:13 GMT -7
I'm not sure I'll get all those places in the same winter, but I'll see what I can do. The Movement Trust is 108mm underfoot, and at 186cm should give me plenty of float for clomping around exposed places and in deep snow. It gets great reviews on TGR for being utterly predictable in horrible conditions, which is exactly what I'd want for that category of ski. I'd probably mount it with a Beast 14, for the added elasticity in crap conditions. The reason I'm still thinking about the Shift is that it's soooo light, and I'd also probably use it more locally. I'd mount it with a Dynafit speed radical, and practically levitate my way to the top. Still working out my exact plan and thoughts, but leaning toward the Trust for now. Demoing all these skis sounds like a hassle, so I'm probably just going to look for a sale to snipe and go skiing. I'll let you know what I end up doing after I order & ski it!
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Post by superbman on Aug 21, 2014 19:38:07 GMT -7
No, the trust makes good sense and sounds a lot like the other skis, same kind of stick. Cool.
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